The self force formalism is the leading approach to obtaining waveforms for binary sources with extreme mass ratios. Accuracy requirement of the upcoming LISA mission necessitate results at second order in the mass ratio. The second-order problem is tackled predominantly with numerical methods, which are notoriously challenging. Complementing these methods with analytical approximations (e.g. around the Newtonian or Minkowskian limit) can massively reduce the computational cost. Motivated by this I will present the latest progress towards analytical second order results, which bypasses major computational difficulties of previous approaches.